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Hades
09-07-2005, 02:17 PM
Hey guys, the vol 1 had just released. It is drawn by 何志文. 1 of my top 3 favourite HK artist.
I heard that this is a bi-weekly released which means every 2 weeks will release 1 vol just like 天下 :hello:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/hobbyhype/forum/shujian1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/hobbyhype/forum/shujian2.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/hobbyhype/forum/shujian3.jpg
rookiyong
09-07-2005, 05:12 PM
Finally....
If its bi-weekly than I might consider, since he is also one of my fav artist :supz:
rookiyong
10-07-2005, 10:12 PM
Pics added!
The standard is not bad, maintaining the usual quality of 何志文. This comic will be fully coloured and will be as close to the original as possible, which is what I always wanted about novel translated to comics.
A good title to catch :supz:
Hades
10-07-2005, 11:26 PM
I bought the first vol yesterday, abit boring to me after reading it. Can expected that the fighting scenes will not be as good as Jue Shi Wu Shuang or Jue Dai Shuang Jiao due to the novel.
i just browse tru last week. i think the style and standard maintain as his previous title...i agree with hades...1st issue a bit boring.... hope the coming one will be more interesting :D
rookiyong
11-07-2005, 09:54 PM
Maybe I abit wierd, but whenever I see comics with alot of words I am very happy, makes me think that they are working :laugh: :laugh:
To me, those concentrate too much on fighting are bored :( So when I see the 1st issue so many words and it will follow the original closely, it appeals to me well :D
Maybe I abit wierd, but whenever I see comics with alot of words I am very happy, makes me think that they are working :laugh: :laugh:
To me, those concentrate too much on fighting are bored :( So when I see the 1st issue so many words and it will follow the original closely, it appeals to me well :D
hahaha...then novel with little pic shld be most appealing to you then...hehehehe :laugh:
LoneWolf
12-07-2005, 04:07 PM
Most likely i will collect the TPB this time round which is more cost effective :D
Hades
12-07-2005, 05:35 PM
Most likely i will collect the TPB this time round which is more cost effective :D
U mean compilation book? What does TPB stands for anyway??? Anyone knows how long the story for this novel last? So far as I know, Xia Ke Xing should be 1 of the shortest among Jin Yong's novel. Any idea??
Hoped that it will ended soon for this manga.
rookiyong
12-07-2005, 11:02 PM
I estimate 40+ issues, so 1.5 - 2years bi weekly.
Hades
12-07-2005, 11:26 PM
I estimate 40+ issues, so 1.5 - 2years bi weekly.
Wah, than the Jue Shi Wu Shuang part 2 got to wait for another 1 or 2 yrs liao. :(
as per usual loh...i hope he zhi wen dont draw 2 book together...wait both quality drop.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
LoneWolf
15-07-2005, 02:26 PM
Just read the 1st issue.Its indeed good, standard being maintain :)
actually i was hoping to see improvement fr zhiwen....common prob for HK artists...maintain at certain standard then stagnant.....actually its good to see the style changing in drawing for mah rong chen....at least shows improvement....
Hades
22-07-2005, 09:10 PM
Just read the vol 2, looks like this novel is really boring man. Wonder whether I should still getting them in future :|
rookiyong
22-07-2005, 09:20 PM
I was looking for it, but didnt see, thought it was delayed......it should have been released on Tue right? Of course lah, this will be alot of words..
Hades
22-07-2005, 11:32 PM
I bought it on Wed from CC. Normally their HK wkly issues arrived on Wed
rookiyong
23-07-2005, 10:58 AM
That means I am late, didnt see any left, unless they only order a few copies.
This will probably be more like adding pictures to the novel and make it more colourful. But standard should maintain.
Hades
23-07-2005, 01:21 PM
Yeah, the arts maintained his standard. However, I never ever seen He Zhi Wen's standard dropped before leh. JD should learn from him man :laugh:
rookiyong
10-08-2005, 09:38 PM
Who still buying huh? I did not get issue 3....still unsure, maybe transfer and use the money for japan comics =))
Hades
10-08-2005, 09:48 PM
Still not yet into the exciting part :(
slow lah bro...be patience...... 8-)
Hades
16-09-2005, 01:11 AM
Vol 6 arrives liao on 15/09/2005
I thought usually arrives on Sat? How come this week released so fast??
Hades
30-09-2005, 03:34 PM
The recent issues can sees that the standard abit dropped for the coloring.. I thought that He Zhi Wen going to use those fen zi printing?? Abit dissappointed leh if carries on like this :(
rookiyong
30-09-2005, 04:11 PM
You are collecting this? Maybe he is preparing for Jue Shi 2. :salute:
Hades
30-09-2005, 04:28 PM
Yeah still collecting... I dun thinks he had the time to prepares Jue Shi 2.. Probably preparing the storyline bah...
i haven read for few issue liao...u mean the drawing quality drop? or the printing quality drop? or the paper quality drop?
rookiyong
30-09-2005, 09:33 PM
From his post, seems like drop 2 ways. Fen Zi he used in Jue Shi also, than after sometime stopped because of cost issues. Normal paper still ok lah, but for coloured drawings, the effect won't be as good if not FenZi :|
I usually just flip through, seems like still acceptable, shouldnt' be too bad right?
Hades
01-10-2005, 03:28 PM
Arts still maintain but the printing coloring goes back to the old ways :( Overall, still a good 1 I can says ;)
lokeskywalker007
12-10-2005, 10:15 PM
Latest issue changes back to glossy paper. 何志文 did give an explanation why last issue normal paper was used.
Hades
12-10-2005, 11:28 PM
Latest issue changes back to glossy paper. 何志文 did give an explanation why last issue normal paper was used.
Yeah, he was testing on the printing using normal papers as trying to cut down the budgets. But the outcome appeared terrible and change back to glossy again. At least he is sincere by explaining to us that he will maintain his work/standard by not letting us down. :hello: :supz: :dance:
lokeskywalker007
13-10-2005, 01:15 AM
Yeah, he was testing on the printing using normal papers as trying to cut down the budgets. But the outcome appeared terrible and change back to glossy again. At least he is sincere by explaining to us that he will maintain his work/standard by not letting us down. :hello: :supz: :dance:
何志文 is one of the few surviving hk comic creator that I respect.:prayer:
rookiyong
13-10-2005, 10:05 AM
Is the story picking up?? I also like 何志文, very sincere author :prayer:
I did not buy this title, but flipped every issue, art seem to maintain except that normal papers really could not achieve the effect.
lokeskywalker007
01-11-2005, 09:12 PM
See the latest issue. The art keeps getting better. Keep up the good work 何志文:rock:
Hades
01-11-2005, 10:06 PM
Yeah, standard still as good as before :thumbsup:
Hades
26-11-2005, 01:17 PM
I saw the TBP of this title released in the store liao :) It costs NT 130 and I thinks that it should be consisting of 3 issues per vol by looking at the thickness :thinking:
rookiyong
27-11-2005, 12:02 AM
I saw the TBP of this title released in the store liao :) It costs NT 130 and I thinks that it should be consisting of 3 issues per vol by looking at the thickness :thinking:
Now TPB's seem to be getting expensive. The current story gets exciting already?
Hades
27-11-2005, 11:42 PM
Now TPB's seem to be getting expensive. The current story gets exciting already?
story just started to progress since from last few issues...
rookiyong
07-12-2005, 10:11 PM
TPB for this is released already, NT130. Now I am considering between this or 射雕 :thinking:
Hades
07-12-2005, 10:29 PM
It released since 2 wks ago lor... Gets both lor since they are great :laugh:
rookiyong
08-12-2005, 09:58 PM
Cannot afford so much leh :laugh: I just thought that TPB most likely use those normal papers, which will not show the colouring standard at its best.
Hades
08-12-2005, 10:06 PM
I thinks Shu Jian En Chou Lu should have the coloring standard like the HK weekly issues... I thinks that She Diao coloring is not as gd as the last few issues compares to the latest issues... I thinks the standard drop abit liao
rookiyong
08-12-2005, 10:10 PM
I thinks Shu Jian En Chou Lu should have the coloring standard like the HK weekly issues... I thinks that She Diao coloring is not as gd as the last few issues compares to the latest issues... I thinks the standard drop abit liao
Shu Jian's colouring standard will be there, but HK weekly is still using the good quality paper like Four constables right? TPB will not use it, so the appearance may be lacking.
If She Diao the artwork still maintain than at least got reason to keep lor, the worst is seeing off-shape faces :(
Hades
08-12-2005, 10:47 PM
Shu Jian's colouring standard will be there, but HK weekly is still using the good quality paper like Four constables right? TPB will not use it, so the appearance may be lacking.
If She Diao the artwork still maintain than at least got reason to keep lor, the worst is seeing off-shape faces :(
If u have seen the TBP of four constables before, the paper quality is exactly the same as the HK weekly issues... Maybe u got to ask the boss to open up for u to take a look first lor before getting it... SInce u knows that lady boss mah, should be no problem... :)
EC, get Shu Jian better, at least He Zhi Wen maintain his standard for the pass few title.
Tony's work also Tige head Snake tail, had stop buying this kinda title from Jade man laio [-X
rookiyong
09-12-2005, 09:43 PM
I more on Shu Jian side because less issues, and of course like you say, standard can maintain...mmm...maybe Hades is right, it cost NT130, so maybe good quality paper :thinking:
LoneWolf
10-12-2005, 07:38 PM
The paper those normal type, not gross type.
In fact i like normal type more than gross type. Gross paper are suppose to be use by magazine:question:
rookiyong
10-12-2005, 09:06 PM
Oh you bought liao ah? But I thought gloss paper for Shu Jian may be able to show better. :party:
LoneWolf
10-12-2005, 09:12 PM
Oh you bought liao ah? But I thought gloss paper for Shu Jian may be able to show better. :party:
Though gross paper can show better effect but i just don't like it becos don't have the comics feel:evil:
Hades
10-12-2005, 10:03 PM
I prefered gross paper type. Normal types easily turn yellow after long period. Of course not everyone can really maintained their HK wkly titles with their perfect condition... So I'll go for grossy types instead... More brightness and more colorful... Really nice comparing to those normal paper... :)
Tai_Zi
11-12-2005, 12:01 PM
I prefered gross paper type. Normal types easily turn yellow after long period. Of course not everyone can really maintained their HK wkly titles with their perfect condition... So I'll go for grossy types instead... More brightness and more colorful... Really nice comparing to those normal paper... :)One thing i dun like bout grossy one is tat when i read under the light, sometimes got reflections one..... then need to adjust a bit away from the light leh...... tats y i oso prefer normal types of paper....
Hades
11-12-2005, 08:27 PM
But in terms of nice coloring printing, glossy paper shall be the best choice. If anyone here had collects the HK issues of shu jian en chou lu, u will knows the big difference.
He Zhi Wen once tried to test printing, using the normal paper. He did this as he wants to save cost. Inthe end, the results turned out "bad". He changed back using the glossy paper again for the next issues as he goes for quality not trying to save any cost in his mind. This is what I admired of him man :thumbsup: Unlike Tony Wong, suka suka used glossy paper for those 100 issues or 1 yr anniversary etc..., whenever they wants :(
Just compared the Shao Nian Zui Ming Ban which is the side story of si da ming bu, it is using the normal paper. As for the current si da ming bu, it is using the glossy paper. The difference is really big if u compared them carefully. Can u imagined that if Si Da Ming Bu is not using glossy paper in future, I thinks the whole work will totally goes downhill liao...
Of course, I respect others decision. Each have their own points of view... Hoped I did not offenced anyone here ah... heh...
rookiyong
11-12-2005, 09:05 PM
I think its the way the drawings are done. For Shu Jian and Ming Bu, gloss paper will show the standard better. But for normal colouring, normal paper should do fine.
another things about gloss paper is, after some years, they stick together :laugh: :laugh:
Hades
11-12-2005, 11:13 PM
I'll advise u to go for shu jian en chou lu better... I can sees that She Diao standard abit drop liao from the current issues. The faces they draw, sometimes not stable 1. Abit letdown to Louis fans like us :(
Hades
28-12-2005, 01:17 PM
Just noticed that shu jian tbp might not be using those glossy types paper for printing. Though I never open up before and browse through inside, but from the look at the side view, I thinks they are using those normal paper :thinking:
LoneWolf
28-12-2005, 01:56 PM
Yes. Its using normal comics paper which i prefer:)
Hades
28-12-2005, 02:50 PM
How about the color prinitng? Gd anot?
rookiyong
28-12-2005, 09:19 PM
After price conversion, its about $3 per issue, which is not much difference compared to weeklys...I better wait a while, have the urge than buy. Now concentrating on completing Da Tang novels. :)
LoneWolf
28-12-2005, 10:34 PM
Printing i wld say ok la.
one issue ~$2.50 :D for me
lokeskywalker007
17-03-2006, 09:41 PM
19 issues down the road, the story has reached about one quarter of the original novel. Finally, 乾隆 is making an appearance.:)
rookiyong
18-03-2006, 12:40 AM
One quarter only? I thought it should be about half. I still havent got the TPB, but will be getting this title :)
Hades
18-03-2006, 08:37 AM
Yeah, 東方耳 appeared in the scenes. Who is that young fellow who looks so alike to 陳嘉洛? Sorry, I never seen this novel before :(
lokeskywalker007
18-03-2006, 11:36 AM
Yeah, 東方耳 appeared in the scenes. Who is that young fellow who looks so alike to 陳嘉洛? Sorry, I never seen this novel before :(
That young fellow is 乾隆's (東方耳) son. His name is 福康安. He looks like 陈家洛 because it is a hint that 乾隆 and 陈家洛 are blood related.
Here is a quote from the novel
原来乾隆的皇后是大臣傅恒的姊姊。傅恒之妻十分美貌,进宫来向皇后请安之时,给乾隆见到了,就和她私通而生 了福康安。傅恒共有四子,三个儿子都娶公主为妻。傅恒懵懵懂懂,数次请求让福康安也尚主而为额驸,乾隆只是 微笑不许。他儿子很多,对这私生子偏生特别钟爱。福康安与陈家洛面貌相似,只因两人原是亲叔侄,血缘甚近。 陈家洛不知内中尚有这段怪事
福康安 is a bloody bad guy. He also appears in another 金庸 novel 飞狐外传.
Hades
18-03-2006, 03:15 PM
Icic.... thanks Loke :)
lokeskywalker007
27-04-2006, 07:56 PM
Story progressing qutie fast which, I think is good. Omitting unimportant parts and no addition of bo liao extra story not in the original novel. Great story, good art.:) Keep up the good work 何志文.:D
Hades
10-05-2006, 08:11 PM
Princess Xiang Xiang appeared in this issue liao :supz: So fragrance sia :laugh:
lokeskywalker007
29-05-2006, 09:33 PM
The story is progressing quite fast. I think the title will end in the next 15 to 20 issues.:D
Hades
29-05-2006, 09:42 PM
So Chen Jia Ruo ends up with princess Xiang Xiang or the other tribe gal(forget her name already) :thinking:
rookiyong
29-05-2006, 10:22 PM
The story is progressing quite fast. I think the title will end in the next 15 to 20 issues.:D
He's going to concentrate on 笑傲星河 already :)
fjh081
29-05-2006, 11:51 PM
So Chen Jia Ruo ends up with princess Xiang Xiang or the other tribe gal(forget her name already) :thinking:
Tell you then u noe the ending liao no fun, spoil the surprise element. :D
lokeskywalker007
30-05-2006, 08:55 PM
So Chen Jia Ruo ends up with princess Xiang Xiang or the other tribe gal(forget her name already) :thinking:
I am going to spoil the ending for you.:D In the end Chen Jia Ruo ends up with ... lets just say that it a sad ending.:evil:
rookiyong
30-05-2006, 09:31 PM
Spoilers spoilers....I don't mind since I am not following this title :D
Hades
30-05-2006, 10:10 PM
Use the spoiler tag lah ;) I dun mind knowing the ending in advance :D
Hades
16-06-2006, 07:33 PM
Does the recent issue reached half of the novel yet??
lokeskywalker007
18-06-2006, 09:04 PM
Does the recent issue reached half of the novel yet??
More than half liao. Think close to 3/4 of the novel loh.:D
Hades
18-06-2006, 09:50 PM
More than half liao. Think close to 3/4 of the novel loh.:D
That's great. Can't waits for his Jue Shi Wu Shuang 2 :D
lokeskywalker007
21-07-2006, 10:04 PM
The title ends at issue 30. Very fast leh.:thinking:
Hades
21-07-2006, 10:25 PM
The title ends at issue 30. Very fast leh.:thinking:
Really?? Thought it will somehow takes up to 50 issues. Hmmm, maybe he can consider taking 碧血劍 or 笑傲江湖 :thinking:
rookiyong
22-07-2006, 11:58 AM
That is fast! Seems like he is putting his power in 笑傲星河.
Hades
22-07-2006, 05:58 PM
2 more issues to go :supz:
lokeskywalker007
02-09-2006, 10:35 PM
This series finally comes to an end. A very hush ending. Too bad this prove that zhi wen can't handle two books at one time. Now that he has 笑傲星河 in his hand, and he is going to release Jue Shi 2 in the next two months. I highly doubt that he can handle both unless... well he drops 笑傲星河...:D
rookiyong
03-09-2006, 12:56 AM
Harsh ending meaning 草草结束? Not his style leh...I am looking forward to 绝世 2 also, but if he can't handle both at the same time, than he is going to lose readers on both ends. Hope that does not happen :shooting:
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