Starhub Maxonline Promotion

[Stunner24]

Starhub Maxonline Promotion (http://www.starhub.com/online/promotionsandevents/xbox360_june/index.html)

Free Xbox 360 Core System, worth $550 :hello:

[kazuki]

They dun care abt mol 4000 wan...:bang:

[Stunner24]

They dun care abt mol 4000 wan...:bang:

They did! They just upgraded from 2000+ to 4000 without increasing your subscription fees ;)

Anyway, did a calculation. The difference between the new monthly subscription for 6500 & 4000 is abt $13 per month. 24 months contract, that sums to $312 ;)

[Koo]

I remember they offer subscripables X360 earlier this year on have to pay S$200 on top. :( Why no X360 pro version? 20GB HDD very nice to have.:D

Remeber X360 devalues faster than PS consoles. Microsoft dun care for you.

[wyvern]

Definitely a good deal. Anyway I don't change my service provider anyway... :hello:

[Angelheart]

Then did anybody noe tat if currently using starhub maxonline. Can upgrate??I wish 2 get the xbox 360 leh...bt still left abt 6mths to end the contract.:( :( :(

[kazuki]

They did! They just upgraded from 2000+ to 4000 without increasing your subscription fees ;)

Anyway, did a calculation. The difference between the new monthly subscription for 6500 & 4000 is abt $13 per month. 24 months contract, that sums to $312 ;)
God! U mean u actually believe their technical claims?
No diff wan. Watsmore, recently they jack down their speed liaoz. I believe they trying to control speed during world cup...:angry:

[wyvern]

Just curious here... Is there anyone who got the Xbox through the last promotion and have yet to past the 2 year contract...? I am one of those who got the free xbox through the last promo last year Apr, I guess that means I will not be eligible for the Xbox360 liao... :cry: :cry:

[Stunner24]

God! U mean u actually believe their technical claims?
No diff wan. Watsmore, recently they jack down their speed liaoz. I believe they trying to control speed during world cup...:angry:

Hahaha...... didn't really take note of that :red:

But seems like they have been advertising fiercely on the upgrading ;)

Do you find it wierd?

MOL 2000 --> 4000 ==> No change in monthly subscription
MOL 6500 & Ultimate ==> Monhtly subscription reduced by 10%

:thinking:

[Marky]

Then did anybody noe tat if currently using starhub maxonline. Can upgrate??I wish 2 get the xbox 360 leh...bt still left abt 6mths to end the contract.:( :( :(

You got any friends working in Starhub? If not call them and ask lor.. i think they can help since u left only 6 mths

[starscream]

Dont want XBox 360. Ninety-Nine Nights looks super though :D rather save up for a Wii to try new gaming dimensions. PS3 will be some time later or when Soul Calibur 4 / Metal Gear 4 / Gran Turismo Online Version / Winning Eleven shows up! :hello: :hello:

[Koo]

I wonder if my club can get a free X360 console by using the starhub promotion.:thinking: Problem is where to place it and there is no TV or projector.=))

[kazuki]

Just curious here... Is there anyone who got the Xbox through the last promotion and have yet to past the 2 year contract...? I am one of those who got the free xbox through the last promo last year Apr, I guess that means I will not be eligible for the Xbox360 liao... :cry: :cry:
U are lucky liao lor. U are one of the last few ppl whom still can get freebies for mol 2000... Now ppl like me who is still on mol2000(aka mol4000 now), we dun get any freebies wan leh.:beatup:


MOL 2000 --> 4000 ==> No change in monthly subscription
MOL 6500 & Ultimate ==> Monhtly subscription reduced by 10%
Coz they are trying to convince ppl to subscribe to mol6500 and mol Ultimate. Prob is, if they jack down dl speed, it doesnt make a difference which super plan u sign liaoz.:|
To them is u sign 6500 or Ultimate, they tie u down for more for 2yrs. mol4000, lesser money. Thats why they dun give a damn to mol4000 users when our 2yrs plan is up. They dun bother to offer any gimmicks wan.:sing:

[Hades]

Dont want XBox 360. Ninety-Nine Nights looks super though :D rather save up for a Wii to try new gaming dimensions. PS3 will be some time later or when Soul Calibur 4 / Metal Gear 4 / Gran Turismo Online Version / Winning Eleven shows up! :hello: :hello:
same here!! Nintendo Wii for me too :D

[starscream]

StarHub is just reacting to the Super IT Masterplan to provide wireless fast connection Islandwide. I really hope they can DO MORE! :D

[Stunner24]

Just collected my set. These are the items given:

- XBox Core System (No compartment for HD) :(
- AV Cable
- Power Cord
- Wired Controller x 1
- User Manual
- 64MB Memory Unit x 1
- XBox Live 12 months Gold Subscription Card
- No Games :cry:

Note:
- 1 yr warranty to the console
- 90 days warranty to the controller & memory unit


PS: Just found out that you can buy a HD to attach on the Core System

[Asteroth]

OT: sianz leh, WC over liao, my BT speed still didnt go up, SCV still choking BT d/l.

[kazuki]

OT: sianz leh, WC over liao, my BT speed still didnt go up, SCV still choking BT d/l.
HONTO?!:o
Bro, u not the only one. I am really praying its the shadows of WC, which is why the control of speed. But now that u say, i might wanna consider to change to a cheaper plan liaoz...
No use paying abt $60 a mth and dun get to utilise its speed lor. ADSL cheaper sia, surf net just nice.

[kazuki]

Bro, u are right.
Damn. They really think ppl sign up their cable for online gaming only?!
Paying $60 a mth for surfing net is not cheap leh...:duh:

[piglet]

I thought they are wireless and that the speed is fast! My existing contract with Singtel will be expiring in another 2 months time and i think i will be switching to Starhub.....

[Marky]

I thought they are wireless and that the speed is fast! My existing contract with Singtel will be expiring in another 2 months time and i think i will be switching to Starhub.....

Join the dark side.. but somehow their promotions not really attractive leh.. me waiting for the computer promotions to come out.. then can get a free desktop..

[kazuki]

I thought they are wireless and that the speed is fast! My existing contract with Singtel will be expiring in another 2 months time and i think i will be switching to Starhub.....
surf net still ok. But paying $60 to surf net fast???:thinking:

[Hades]

surf net still ok. But paying $60 to surf net fast???:thinking:
dl purpose lor or maybe watch video clip etc...., wat else for the use to surf net fast :laugh:

[kazuki]

dl purpose lor or maybe watch video clip etc...., wat else for the use to surf net fast :laugh:
thats the prob lah.
u got use bt wan? If u do, u didnt notice the rediculous drop in speed???

[Hades]

I damn long long time never dl liao...

[Lumi]

thats the prob lah.
u got use bt wan? If u do, u didnt notice the rediculous drop in speed???

My torrents are still doing all right... it's only slow for certain files where there's really very few seeders.

Back on topic, I used to be a Starhub user before I got totally frustrated with their service and technicians (they freaking put me on hold for 30 minutes while trying to get hold of their technicians, and then another 30 minutes for 'checking out what's wrong' -- and I was using my handphone to call them -_-) that I switched to Singnet. I'm currently very satisfied with the latter, and I don't have any plans to switch to Starhub anytime soon, no matter how attractive their package can be.

Xbox can go eat the dust.. I'll rather wait for PS3. :D

[Jinxy]

Lesson learnt, always use earpiece when calling up Starhub customer service.

I'm still binded to the bloody digital camera contract till next year. Sianz man. Not that I want the XBOX, I have "too many" consoles to actually have time to play with it. :P

[Lumi]

Lesson learnt, always use earpiece when calling up Starhub customer service.


It's not about using earpiece or not... it's the airtime charge that I'm talking about.. *heart pain* :cry:

[Jinxy]

It's not about using earpiece or not... it's the airtime charge that I'm talking about.. *heart pain* :cry:


I know. I'm talking about my lesson learnt.

[Lumi]

I know. I'm talking about my lesson learnt.

Oh >_< Gomen, I thought you were replying to my post. :red:

Anyway back on topic...

Recently Starhub said that Singnet's claim about 'dedicated bandwidth' is untrue as there's no such thing as 'dedicated bandwidth'. I'm not a techie, so I don't really know whether there is or not. It could jolly well be Singnet's way of promoting its ADSL, but as a user who has subscribed to both ISPs before, I find gaming with Singnet a hell lot smoother than Starhub.

So does anyone know whether if it's true that there's no such thing as 'dedicated bandwidth'?

[LoneWolf]

Oh >_< Gomen, I thought you were replying to my post. :red:

Anyway back on topic...

Recently Starhub said that Singnet's claim about 'dedicated bandwidth' is untrue as there's no such thing as 'dedicated bandwidth'. I'm not a techie, so I don't really know whether there is or not. It could jolly well be Singnet's way of promoting its ADSL, but as a user who has subscribed to both ISPs before, I find gaming with Singnet a hell lot smoother than Starhub.

So does anyone know whether if it's true that there's no such thing as 'dedicated bandwidth'?

I worked as telecom engineer.

In layman term, DSL technology is dedicated and Cable is shared. Every engineer sld know as its basic:D

[Asteroth]

In the gaming community, they always say Singnet pwned SCV provided its not down for some other reasons, so much so that some MMORPG players on SCV prefer to login after midnite for better latency.

[Kippei]

It is the different coy that singnet and starhub get their submarine cable from. Singnet have a direct link to Australia while starhub have to go thru somewhere to get to australia.

Thats why Singnet user on Australia server have low ping. Its all up to where they get their oversea bandwidth from

[rookiyong]

Can take LoneWolf words for it, he has been in the line for so long liao.

I also joined in a discussion with Singtel people before, having dedicated is their advantage over other providers. Their price is also higher, but actually they got some restriction by the authority not to provide the lowest price, if not other players will lose the market to them.

[Kippei]

The delicated seem to me only end at the telephone exchange. In the end traffic are still routed thru shared links.

[starscream]

I believe it is still shared access, just that it is at which level. What we need is a few more super fast sea-wee-mees! :D

[kazuki]

How come i am the suay small grp of ppl whose bt is controlled...:(
I thinking to switch to SN adsl. adsl users, u all bt ok? Total speed on bt can hit how many kbs???

Just now i passed by Plaza Sing, asked the SH staff on recontract for my mol. U know what they say? "U just chk the website can liaoz. What is there is there."
HUH?!:o WTH service is this?! They are like that wan lor, i am not the 1st to kana this. They treasure new users whom might sign with them, more than current users going to recontract their plan.

[Kippei]

Kazuki you on router ? and have you done the concurrent connection patch?

[[soundwave]]

Kazuki you on router ? and have you done the concurrent connection patch?
I'm on a router. Got such a thing? Haven't done the patch.

[Kippei]

Routers make a differences. The type the brand and the make. I using a Linksys 54G router with 3rd party firmware installed. And those who have applied Winxp SP2. They limit concurrent connections to only 10. You know how many BT will use.

[LoneWolf]

I believe it is still shared access, just that it is at which level. What we need is a few more super fast sea-wee-mees! :D

Of course to a certain extent, BW is still shared but at least from user to headend is dedicated for DSL and it do make a diff esp when your block got alot of cable users then jialat liao:cry:

[kazuki]

Kazuki you on router ? and have you done the concurrent connection patch?
Yah, wireless router.
But i dun think should be due to the router. Coz i have been using it for 2yrs already. This problem seem to happen to me and ppl ard me sometime slightly before the world cup. Before that i can hit total speed on the average of 80+kbs, now has total 30kbs can pray to god liaoz...

[Asteroth]

I m using router, my concurrent connection is not limited to 10 but my speed kanasai

[Kippei]

I mean Winxp will limit it to 10 only.

So far after optimizing the router and the Tcp/ip stack. My average for BT for normal torrents(200 peers 50 seeds min) is around 200kb/s

Normally those common routers brought off the shelves and running on default firmware and setting will not be able to take the load of hundred of connections done by BT. Exception is the Dlink Gaming router

[kazuki]

I mean Winxp will limit it to 10 only.

So far after optimizing the router and the Tcp/ip stack. My average for BT for normal torrents(200 peers 50 seeds min) is around 200kb/s

Normally those common routers brought off the shelves and running on default firmware and setting will not be able to take the load of hundred of connections done by BT. Exception is the Dlink Gaming router
Kippei, which internet plan are u with??? Cant be SH MOL right?
Asteroth is the same as me, facing the bt problems too...
I am sure its nothing to do with configurations on our com coz previously my dl speed can hit average 100-150kbs. I am sure Asteroth should be abt the same. That was before the world cup...

[Kippei]

Yep i am on MOL4000.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/Kipp3i/bw.jpg

Was around 230kb/s b4 I finish the airgear torrent. Regrading the torrent issue.
The only two bottleneck i can arrive is the Tcp/ip stack connection limit and router/firmware. My router firmware was custom optimised for BT.

[kazuki]

Yours dl speed also not that good sia... 2.9kbs and 0.2kbs...
That second wan is what speed?? Cant be in kbs bah?!:o
I also on MOL4000 lor, but for this whole world cup season, i have never see such high speed before!

[Kippei]

Picture say a thousand word.. the 2.9kB/s is due to only 4 seeders.

You click on the pic can see the full sized liao. The third one is on seeding mode.

[kazuki]

Picture say a thousand word.. the 2.9kB/s is due to only 4 seeders.

You click on the pic can see the full sized liao. The third one is on seeding mode.
Yah, the seed prob i noticed also. That one is bor bian wan.
How abt the 2nd one? Thats in kbs?:|

[Kippei]

nope kB/s bytes the total speed is at the bottom. I reckon all torrent count in kilobytes

[[soundwave]]

My BT speed is like 20-30+kbs the most.:bang:

[kazuki]

']My BT speed is like 20-30+kbs the most.:bang:
dude, u arent alone. Did this start on u from world cup also???

Kippei, your total dl speed has 200.1kbs?!
Do u mind PM me that 2nd file?
I wanna try see is it my com's prob. If i cant get that speed, then is my prob liaoz. If can, then i also dunno whats wrong also with my other files...

[Asteroth]

My BT speed from 300++ dropped to average of 10-60, depending on no of torrents I opened. Sometimes I will still get 100+ or 200+ from one single connection alone.


Anyway, din do anything to the settings or router, it just drop, so that has probably got nothing to do with TCP/IP or router settings.

[kazuki]

Asteroth, u still can hit 100+ sometimes?!
How come only i so suay... I hit 30kbs is best so far liaoz. Thats total dl speed, not the dl speed of one file...

[Kippei]

Is possible to have a high speed which you happened to connect to a seed sending u file at 100 kB/s. I did experience that b4 i do up my router. Most commonly it happen at very popular torrent like bleach and naruto. I was able to max my connection to 410 kB/s on a couple of time.

[kazuki]

Is possible to have a high speed which you happened to connect to a seed sending u file at 100 kB/s. I did experience that b4 i do up my router. Most commonly it happen at very popular torrent like bleach and naruto. I was able to max my connection to 410 kB/s on a couple of time.
Bro, this time is really need to ask u liaoz.
I tried that file, i am still getting dl speed ard 3kbs. I sent that file to another friend who is facing the same prob as me. Same for him too...

What is it could be wrong with my com???

[Kippei]

What is ur router and it is winxp Sp2?

[kazuki]

What is ur router and it is winxp Sp2?
My router is free from SH wan. Brand is Linksys. Wireless wan. But then my com arent running on the wireless, i only lazy to unplug it. I used to share it with my sis, coz she using her mac in her room. But she married and left liaoz.

how do i see my winxp is SP2 or not???

[Kippei]

Computer properties

[kazuki]

Computer properties
Its SP1...

[Kippei]

I think it lies in ur linksys router and ur torrent config setting... The default linksys firmware cannot cope with BT.

Use direct connect at least you can narrow it down to Torrent setting. Wat torrent u using and wat upload speed u using

[kazuki]

But then my friend he is on SP2 and no router, MOL4000, direct to modem. Also the same dl prob as me...

I will try to remove the router tmr and try again. Tonight is abit late for such siong IT job for a non IT pax like me...:red:
I using bitcomet, ul rate 10kbs. Actually this settings have been like this since day1. It had been working finely till world cup starts till now...
Before that i never have such prob wan...

[kazuki]

Kippei-san, still cannot wor...
I tried to connect my modem directly to com liaoz, previously i connected via router.
Still the same low dl speed...:(

[Kippei]

screenshot ur bittorrent program config

[Kippei]

This is my recent BT taken just now.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/Kipp3i/bw1.jpg

With router on MOL4000

[Stunner24]

Er.... guys, try to stick to the topic :(

[kazuki]

So, are there any MOL4000 promotions anymore?
If not i think i will jump ship to SN for their cheaper adsl liaoz. No point paying so much for so little usage... They still have freebies somemore.

[bingren]

A lady from Starhub called me the other day, offering some freebies if i sign up for 1 year subscription. I told her if they offer PS3 then I'll consider. =))

[kazuki]

A lady from Starhub called me the other day, offering some freebies if i sign up for 1 year subscription. I told her if they offer PS3 then I'll consider. =))
U still lucky lor, at least got ppl "served".
That day i went to PS SH shop. I asked them if there are any promotions for existing MOL4000 customers to recontract. They dun give me a damn and told me chk online in their website. Have will be inside, dun have means dun have... F their customer service...:angry:

[bingren]

U still lucky lor, at least got ppl "served".
That day i went to PS SH shop. I asked them if there are any promotions for existing MOL4000 customers to recontract. They dun give me a damn and told me chk online in their website. Have will be inside, dun have means dun have... F their customer service...:angry:
Wah they said that to you ah? Take down the person's name and complain! The feedback online works. :grins evily:

[kazuki]

Wah they said that to you ah? Take down the person's name and complain! The feedback online works. :grins evily:
She has the typical prc accent.:pig:
SH is notorious for not giving a F for existing customers. They prefer getting new customers to sign up with them.

[jdelpiero]

She has the typical prc accent.:pig:
SH is notorious for not giving a F for existing customers. They prefer getting new customers to sign up with them.

That's true..
But can make a big hooha scene at the shop also..
embarrass them.. or at least make the management notice..


but having said that,
they do have a good helpdesk..

[kazuki]

To "punish" them, i think i will jump ship over to SN.(though the earnings go to the same boss in the end...:| )
$60 not a small amt lor, how can like this wan...:(
Last time still got free xbox or tv wan...

[kazuki]

Hi guys, like to ask your opinions for this.

SH is offering recontract for my MOL4000. Sign 2yrs they give me this sound system and $100 Tangs voucher.
http://www.starhub.com/online/promotionsandevents/hub_anniversary06/index.html

Do u all think its worth signing now?

[rookiyong]

Is your contract finished already? That time my house BB waited till the last minute before recontract with Singnet and got $700 Best Denki voucher, which I sold for $600+. Just 1 month before that, they only offered a free modem.

The sound system looks good but see if can negotiate for more vouchers :nah:

[kazuki]

Is your contract finished already? That time my house BB waited till the last minute before recontract with Singnet and got $700 Best Denki voucher, which I sold for $600+. Just 1 month before that, they only offered a free modem.

The sound system looks good but see if can negotiate for more vouchers :nah:
WAH!:o
$700 vouchers?! How much is your monthly subscription plan wan??? U must be a big customer to them lor.
Mine MOL plan is the cheapest in SH, so actually they dun give a damn to subscribers like us wan. Whatsmore we are existing customers, worse. Its "common knowledge" that they dun care much abt retaining existing customers, coz they know u will not jump coy that easily coz of troublesome...

[rookiyong]

Normal only, $58 monthly :D Quite suprised that at the last minute as we were about to switch to starhub as all their previous offers failed, they offered the vouchers which we have no reason to turn down. Its like getting a year of free BB. :)

Its true that they will always woo new customers...in fact every telco like this, that's why people switch here and there to enjoy things. :laugh: But I still think the in terms of promotions, Starhub gives out more.

[kazuki]

Normal only, $58 monthly :D Quite suprised that at the last minute as we were about to switch to starhub as all their previous offers failed, they offered the vouchers which we have no reason to turn down. Its like getting a year of free BB. :)

Its true that they will always woo new customers...in fact every telco like this, that's why people switch here and there to enjoy things. :laugh: But I still think the in terms of promotions, Starhub gives out more.
WTF!
My MOL plan also abt your price lor. They dun even bother to serve me at their counter when i went to their shop. They only said "U are existing customer huh? Go online chk lah. Got promotions will be inside, not inside means no promotions for u all."
:o

[Miracle]

WTF!
My MOL plan also abt your price lor. They dun even bother to serve me at their counter when i went to their shop. They only said "U are existing customer huh? Go online chk lah. Got promotions will be inside, not inside means no promotions for u all."
:o

I get that too... :shooting:

Even M1 also... :shooting:

[kazuki]

I get that too... :shooting:

Even M1 also... :shooting:
"That" as in that answer, or that good $700 voucher?

Personally i think sg's service sector has a long way to go. I am waiting for IR to come quickly so that i can laugh at their bad service.:D

[Miracle]

"That" as in that answer, or that good $700 voucher?

Personally i think sg's service sector has a long way to go. I am waiting for IR to come quickly so that i can laugh at their bad service.:D

"That" refers to what happened to you. :D

[taesake]

Normal only, $58 monthly :D Quite suprised that at the last minute as we were about to switch to starhub as all their previous offers failed, they offered the vouchers which we have no reason to turn down. Its like getting a year of free BB. :)

Its true that they will always woo new customers...in fact every telco like this, that's why people switch here and there to enjoy things. :laugh: But I still think the in terms of promotions, Starhub gives out more.

same case here,i reject all their previous recontract offers...BUT this 700SGD voucher too temting...:laugh:
bought 2 dvd players for home use with it. :thumbsup:

[Marky]

Wow... the $700 voucher is really tempting.. how come SH dun have that.. if not i go buy a recordable DVD player liaoz.. or a PSP!!! hahah..

[kazuki]

Wow... the $700 voucher is really tempting.. how come SH dun have that.. if not i go buy a recordable DVD player liaoz.. or a PSP!!! hahah..
Yah lor, me on SH never hear before such power recontract promotion...

Rooki, when was that actually?

[rookiyong]

same case here,i reject all their previous recontract offers...BUT this 700SGD voucher too temting...:laugh:
bought 2 dvd players for home use with it. :thumbsup:

wow you also got it :yeah:


Rooki, when was that actually?


Late last year. The reason I can think of for being so good is that their price are already scheduled for a revision down. A few months after the re-contract, the same plan now goes for $40+. So if they had not given good offers, subscribers will later kbkb :)

[kazuki]

Problem abt SH is, even i go their shop cbcb they also dun give me a damn lor...

[Stunner24]

That's b'cos the pple in the shop are not major decision makers.

Just like that time when I visited one of the SH shops, all are youngsters, don't think they're the managers :(

They also asked me if my home had a white box installed or not. Not all flats need white box, especially if the whole building is already cabled. All you need is just a splitter to be attached at the TV outlet point so that it can support both the TV and the modem.

[piglet]

My contract with ST expiring soon, so maybe i will switch to SH. Lucky for me is that i know the sales manager, so i can ask cheaper or corporate rate from her. :D

[kazuki]

My contract with ST expiring soon, so maybe i will switch to SH. Lucky for me is that i know the sales manager, so i can ask cheaper or corporate rate from her. :D
nono, dun got to SH. U see so far where got ppl say their promotions are gd? They dun care abt recontract customers wan.
U should think twice...

[Fire]

Is your contract finished already? That time my house BB waited till the last minute before recontract with Singnet and got $700 Best Denki voucher, which I sold for $600+. Just 1 month before that, they only offered a free modem.

The sound system looks good but see if can negotiate for more vouchers :nah:

wah bro..u get a very good offer....last time nvr heard of this...not fr SH definately...:o