View Full Version : how to bulid a vibrant comic popculture?
garyg
09-08-2005, 10:25 AM
Saw in Chinese papers, fukan, today an article about building a popculture in sg, mainly on pop songs and singers. I thought most of what it says applies to building a vibrant comic popculture here too.
what do u guys think? What can be done to promote local comic scene? Gov? Sch? policy? media? activities?
rookiyong
09-08-2005, 10:53 AM
I read that too, but like what those interviewed hope for, somebody should take the 1st step, and usually poeple will point towards the govt.
Actually the point about govt controlling things have already been loosened up alot over the years, just that most of us still have the concept of being pulled by them. It is just an excuse by people for not wanting to move and start doing things.
I think main issue is that nobody up there says you can't do this, (think SM Goh said before) so in actual fact, you can. But problem arises when the message is passed down, the various govt bodies will say NO to things, as the people running them have already instilled a fixed mindset on how things should be proceeded in SG.
I would look forward to a comic popculture, but a comics artist doesn't come by chance, they require years of learning and flare for it. I think one reason why many local artists did not take up this as their FT job is because of money, cant earn much. Govt may not be able to do much here, and some schools may resent comics. I would think more media and comics activities can help to promote, cultivate and give motivation to the rare number of artists here.
How long have zaobao fukan not cover comics? The most recent ones are those on Anime, since it is the next hotcake. Probably more coverage on comic interviews, introductions, the local comic shops, overview etc etc....one article bi-weekly would be good. People may start to notice and stop thinking about the negative side of comics.
garyg
09-08-2005, 04:32 PM
for those who like to read the article, here's the link:
http://www.zaobao.com/fk/fk050809_501.html
i thin kto build a popculture for comics need a lot of worktogehter fr all levels of ppl :D to rely on artists alone is not enough if the whole environment doesnt allow
i thin kto build a popculture for comics need a lot of worktogehter fr all levels of ppl :D
We have started to do a little by producing a comic for local pop singer, JJ林俊杰。Comic part all done. left 10% of work and it can be published.
We'll also be producing a series of 10 comic book on an online game comic version..
Preview for JJ Comix:
http://www.funics.com.sg/event-pic/beijing/JJ-1.jpg
nice :thumbsup: u guys sure are one of the active group in local comic arena :salute:
Hades
10-08-2005, 06:51 PM
whats the story about for the Yue Xing Zhe? That should be JJ's first album if I'm not wrong
Thanks. We are just trrying our best. There are many groups in Singapore also doing things. I believe very soon, we'll have more local creation. Lets hope for the good one to be born.
Yah, 乐行者is JJ 1st album. :mrgreen:
joequakze
11-09-2005, 11:36 PM
....in this couple years... a few comic artist groups are formed and are active in promoting comic art in sg. really hope u fellas can make a big bang and let sg local comic scene flourish... :)
:rock: :sing: :drum: :supz:
hope to see these few groups bk publish in the market..will defiantely support!...uncle wing...publishing any bk in near future?? :D
joequakze
12-09-2005, 09:08 PM
....hahhaha...fire...me a lone ranger...but m working on it.... :D ... hope to produce something of my own next year... :supz: ...
.... :D :supz: :sing: :drum: :laugh: :dance:
rookiyong
12-09-2005, 09:57 PM
....hahhaha...fire...me a lone ranger...but m working on it.... :D ... hope to produce something of my own next year... :supz: ...
.... :D :supz: :sing: :drum: :laugh: :dance:
working on a title now? :mrgreen:
joequakze
12-09-2005, 11:03 PM
...actually...yes...rookiyong...i m working on a title now...my own personal comic project... and if u have seen my work...u might have notice wat kind of theme i m venturing into... :D
:rock: :supz: :drum: :sing: :dance: :D
LoneWolf
13-09-2005, 10:52 AM
...actually...yes...rookiyong...i m working on a title now...my own personal comic project... and if u have seen my work...u might have notice wat kind of theme i m venturing into... :D
:rock: :supz: :drum: :sing: :dance: :D
Ok, everyone listen up! Must buy a copy from Joe once published.Else you will be sacked! :sing:
Just joking, I prefer ghost stories haha. Definitely i will support, cheers!
Hades
13-09-2005, 12:14 PM
Ghost story hard lar... The atmosphere and background must looks erie.. So far I never comes across any great ghost titles manga in the market.
Anyway, wish u the best Joequazke
joequakze
13-09-2005, 02:14 PM
....mmm...so far...in the market....the only horror artist who i really like is 伊藤润一... the jap artist who drew 旋涡... :)
....horror comic is kinda difficult to draw... becos one must be able to deliver the 'feel'... and to do that... not juz on the drawing styles and techniques alone, but also the story concept and plot.... :red:
....horror genre...its a theme thats widely accepted by all ages and sexes... its theme that never die or get faded... unless the market is spolit by lousy production of horror work lah... but luckily these few years... we have good productions not juz comic but from Movies, dramas etc....
... horror genre certainly has its market protential there and also...its less competitive....we have alot of horror writers who came out horror novels...but comic...the market its still young...and untapped yet....
....Hades, wolf thanks for the support.... :supz:
:rock: :drum: :sing: :dance: :supz:
LoneWolf
13-09-2005, 02:41 PM
....mmm...so far...in the market....the only horror artist who i really like is 伊藤润一... the jap artist who drew 旋涡... :)
....horror comic is kinda difficult to draw... becos one must be able to deliver the 'feel'... and to do that... not juz on the drawing styles and techniques alone, but also the story concept and plot.... :red:
....horror genre...its a theme thats widely accepted by all ages and sexes... its theme that never die or get faded... unless the market is spolit by lousy production of horror work lah... but luckily these few years... we have good productions not juz comic but from Movies, dramas etc....
... horror genre certainly has its market protential there and also...its less competitive....we have alot of horror writers who came out horror novels...but comic...the market its still young...and untapped yet....
....Hades, wolf thanks for the support.... :supz:
:rock: :drum: :sing: :dance: :supz:
伊藤润二 not 一 right ? haha, anyway, this guy is digusting.....however i always attracted to read some of his titles as its kind of super eerie that can give you nightmare kind of comics. Think till now, not one can beat him on horror titles :prayer:
Stunner24
13-09-2005, 03:38 PM
Do you guys know Daniel Wang? Read his works here:
http://www.sgdanielwang.com/
This link is also available under Comics Link, Singapore Section ;)
LoneWolf
13-09-2005, 04:36 PM
Do you guys know Daniel Wang? Read his works here:
http://www.sgdanielwang.com/
This link is also available under Comics Link, Singapore Section ;)
Think someone post it before :D
rookiyong
13-09-2005, 08:28 PM
For movies its easy, they just have to make someone scream until your hair stand and when you leave the cinema, your critics will be "wah...good ah, so scary..". But for comics, without the sound effects, really a tough road. Good luck Joe for attacking the hard nut :salute: at least to me its not simple :)
joequakze
13-09-2005, 08:32 PM
...thats the thing abt comic lah...only thru drawings and story plot to deliver the 'feel'...hahhaha...thanks for the encouragement....me will defintely Gambette..!!! :D
:rock: :drum: :sing: :dance: :supz:
for comic to deliver the same level of horror feel in the movie...its very very difficult...so hv to approach differently...no music...no action....only by drawing...the artists must be very solid to be able to deliver the horror feel....wingfee....jiayou jiayou :salute:
garyg
14-09-2005, 02:20 PM
agree with u guys abt horror being difficult to represent on print than in media, bcos by nature it rely heavily on the senses, esply sight and sound. but well, there's always exception :) eg the ring started from a lousy novel (the author wrote it for a competition, i've read the translated original novel and it s**ks). The director made an excellent adaptation. :) so uncle wing's success may come when some director became inspired after reading and made a movie out of it. To think that even "the Maid" was bought by brad pitt's movie company, so got chance leh :D
otherwise, uncle wing can have cd together with book, play eerie music while reading the comic, not bad hor? :D (there was a time when i liked the Ring so much i bought the movie CD and play all day :P ) pity my wife who had to listen to my ghost stories ideas all day and night :D
rookiyong
14-09-2005, 08:53 PM
otherwise, uncle wing can have cd together with book, play eerie music while reading the comic, not bad hor? :D (there was a time when i liked the Ring so much i bought the movie CD and play all day :P ) pity my wife who had to listen to my ghost stories ideas all day and night :D
this is an interesting idea :laugh: :laugh: The reading time of the comics must follow the playing CD.
CD: Page 1.....
Reader: Flips to page 1 and read....than wait.....
CD: Page 2.....
Reader: Flips to page 2 and read....than wait.....
CD: Page 3.....
Reader: Flips to page 3
CD: Screams!!!!
Reader wife: Can you stop doing that!
Reader: Off CD, closes book..go to sleep....grumble.... :laugh: :laugh:
joequakze
14-09-2005, 11:18 PM
....wah..piazn....like that the cost of the comic will go up....who will wanna invest...?..... :(
....hahhaha....since i decided to take up horror genre....i have been looking into ways to create the 'feel'...and its not juz thru drawings but also stoy plot, story flow... actually reading comics is the same as reading novels... :)
Stephen King was known as a horror master...he delivered his horror feel by words... i think its even more diffificult cos reader gotta read and imagine/visualised then feel 'horrify'.... :red: ....
....we have adam lee and a few successful horror writer in sg too.... flankly if they can deliver horror thru words.... then we can deliver horror thru drawings...only one thing that's common to both presentations of horror...and thats the story plot...the story's flow.... it's a important element thats must go together with the words and drawings....
.... we do have a hugh amt of horror fans in sg...regardless of whether its movie, novels, or comics....thus...the market is there for horror genre... how successful is your horror work depend also on how u gonna market it... :red:
...if your work is good...but u dun know how to sell it....the sale will be bad at least at the begining stage when u launch your work, it'll be very slow for the sale to move up....and the publisher with the artist might lost patience and confidence... :red: ..
....i work with publisher be4... i know it take average a year to finally decide whether is the bk sellable.... if after 3-4 mths the sale is still not picking up...usually publisher will not take the risk and invest on the second bk...
...thus....the first bk is very important...marketing strategy need to be devise first be4 u decide wat u wanna do...then...how u gona do it.... u can't draw wat u wanna draw.... :red:
...i think the above applys to all genre of comics...and even business or different industry.....not juz comics :)
...sorri nagging again....bad habit....hahhaha......but...i always find fun to express my views by writing essays...kekekke.... :D
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as usual..uncle wing.... :laugh: :laugh:
Stunner24
15-09-2005, 11:32 AM
....sorri nagging again....bad habit....hahhaha......but...i always find fun to express my views by writing essays...kekekke.... :D
:rock: :sing: :drum: :dance: :supz:
No problem. I believe this is a good sharing especially to those who have no experience in this line ;)
rookiyong
15-09-2005, 11:33 PM
I like expression of long thoughts, me also long-winded type :laugh:
joequakze
16-09-2005, 02:36 AM
....hahhaha...rookie....welocme to the my 'nagging club'.... :D
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