national comics and CL seminar

[garyg]

hi, new guy here :)

saw in other thread that most people here read HK comics? me too :)

also saw that u guys feel nothing is happening in local comic scene, agree totally. quite boring huh? Make people feel that sg no comics...

As such, i am working to hope to change that by organising a national comics and CL seminar for all pri and sec CL teachers in sg, hoping to intro manga into schools. I feel that if we can get teachers to encourage comics for the sake of learning CL, then there will be a sustained impact and prolong influence on batches after batches of students :) and hopefully in the long term get more parents and top gov people to view comic seriously.

more details at http://GarygComicStudio.com/seminar.htm

大家加油！

hope to hear what you guys feel abt this :)

[SKYW4LKER]

Thank you for your post. You have a studio for training comics appreciation ar. Thats good. Can introduce more of your frens to HH here. Cheers. :x

[garyg]

comics appreciation? sounds interesting, how can i learn more abt what u do? :)

[Fire]

woh gary...u was a teacher ?? now full time cartoonist? cool :supz: :supz:
btw, wats CL? the seminar is for teacher only rite? sad we cannot attend.
btw, u need any volunteer? i can help u if u need any manpower :supz: :supz:
i always looking for a chance to contribute to the local comic industry

[rookiyong]

Great ah Gary, didnt know that there is somebody to introduce comics to the schools, bcos usually they are against it :)

My personal feel, comics can really encourage the learning or Chinese, I used to be just normal, than keep improving over my sec sch time bcos of contact with comics and novels. my ex-collegue once asked me how her son can improve CL, since he got no interest, I say read comcis, but she just tought I am joking...its true ah :salute:

Many are already giving up HK comics, but I think you can still find alot of us reading here :laugh:

hope to see you often and the works you are doing, definately good news :hello: :hello:

[Hades]

Yeah I totally agrees with Rookie. At least I gets A1 for my chinese language during my 'O' level :D

I've been reading comics since I was about 7-8 yrs old. We could just learnt 繁體字 and 簡體字 at the same time through reading them :read: When times goes by, u could actually knows how to read them. Quite amazing sometimes that some words are unfamiliar to me but I did knows how to read them :laugh:

[garyg]

wow thanks for the great support :D really nice to hear some positive feedback, after banging some walls in carrying out the thing :D

Fire: CL means chinese language lor :O yup, i left teaching 3 yrs ago and started drawing :D (sounds kind of crazy huh? :D ) btw now am 32, but look older :( thanks for volunteering, but paiseh to ask u lah, i just join this forum u know :D

rookiyong and hades: would really like to know more abt how comics helped u all, so that i can quote your testimonies next time, if u're ok with it :D i myself didnt have any problem with CL from young (unlike kids now) bcos i start reading comics at young age too :D longfumun, xiaodingdang etc. i totally agree that reading HK comics help u recognise 繁体字, which sch doesnt teach, so sad hor.

actually there's another CL teacher comic artist, weng tian bao, u all might have heard of him :) For a start, we are introducing manga first, which is milder and easier to accept for sg parents, teachers etc. many still equate comic with violence, no wonder sg so uncreative la. we hope to introduce over 10 selected series to sch, ease their fears, give them ideas how to use these comics to teach essay writing etc. once they are comfortable, they'll adopt comics and more and more comics will be put in sch libraries, reading prog, comic activities etc :D

i am really happy that a minister is able to attend and put his stamp on it. Knowing sg, everything top down, it will give teachers a big big OK to use comics, therefore boosting local comic scene. right now i am trying to publicise this event, spread the word, hopefully to overseas even, so that people will hear whats happening in sg comic scene (rather than "sg got comics meh?"). you guys have any suggestions how i can do it? zaobao and MAGE magazine already ok to publicise.

[rookiyong]

Heard of Wen Tian Bao also, even got read some of his works, these are those that parents may be able to accept :)

Gary you are free to post your event here no problems with that, hope that more people get to know about this :supz:

[Hades]

Go go Gary go :supz:

[LoneWolf]

Hi Gary, u can also quote me no prob, becos of reading alot of comics, i also score A1 for chinese and even A1 for chinese literature during my O level days and frankly no sweat becos chinese is really chicken feet since i read so much chinese comics and novels when i was only 9 years old.

By the way, i'm 1 year older than you :D

[meow]

Hi Gary,

me same case as Lonewolf....
We were classmat then & I remember one of our classmate bring the HK comic & nearly the whole class of boys share it....
all of us got no problem with CL :D

HK comic maybe too voilence, but Jap comic has lot of title & they are very informative as well...
I had switch to Jap comic now & the TW translation is good...
School children will be able to pick up interest of CL from comic :supz:

I'm now a father of a 4 yrs old girl & still reading comic... probably will introduce this interest to my daughter as well :thumbsup:

I'll definitely support your work...

cheers
:D

[Fire]

wah...seems like a lot ppl here score As for CL after reading comics.....hahah....gary.....pls quote what is written here to the parents .... can increase their confident in accepting comic in schools..... :D
hha...bro...no need kek qi lah, i can volunteer to help out...really! no joke! :D
....although u just join us...i'm very happy i knew a new fren who is supporting the local comic industry......i'm currently planning on a project for comic oso....well....we can keep in touch and see if we can work out something together....... :supz:

well actually i think its pretty cool to have the courage to go full time in drawing comics...not everyone can do that....i support u! :hello: :hello: gambatte

[rookiyong]

wah lao eh...I only manage to get B3, bcos I am late in reading comics, if let me repeat 1 more year, confirm can get A1 :laugh:

My class technical class, so all boys and during sports day, I remember we had one stack of msia version street fighter all reading at the sports complex. Even malay classmates also "read". :hello:

btw gary, you can definately quote lonewolf, I think he is the most kuazhang collector in sg, maybe much overwelming than most HK ppl also :shock:

[garyg]

wow, thanks for all your replies, very encouraging leh :D

from all your replies, i think we hit a keypoint, CL doesnt seem a problem to those who read comics, esply if they start young. and wow, so many got A1 siah o.O" (B3 not bad also, esply nowsday when our students' standard of CL so low) But i had a students once who read comics too, but her chinese still poor leh, how? was it more bcos of constant contact with CL thru comics that helped, or chinese-speaking family backgrd?

wow, rookiyong, i am beginning to recall the good old days like yours too :D i used to go to a bkshop at bras basah level 1 to dig longfumen, it's still there, facing the road. the owners very stern-looking, but i will dig thru all the scattered issues and carry 2 big red plastic bag take bus home :P

fire: sounds like a special proj u have siah...tell me/ us abt it lah (garyg@garygcomicstudio.com). i think sg comic scene is a small place, we shld combine effort and aim for the sea, not swim in a puddle of water, or fight among ourselves in the small pond as i have observe in some previous cases :) the least i can do is maybe give you some contacts, if u need? :)

below is a list of the 15 titles we're introducing to schools, want do u think guys?
(5 stars, random order) 1.《灭火群雄》2.《中华小厨师》3.《彩虹的拉面》4.《新铁拳小子》5.《铁拳小子外传》6.《台球 高手》7.《棋灵王》8.《灌篮高手》9.《足球小将翼》| (4 stars) 10.《网球王子》11.《怪医秦博士》12.《射雕英雄传》13.《笑傲江湖》| (3 stars) 14.《天龙八部》15.《孙中山》

[Fire]

can intro conan or jing tian yi oso..thesd detective comics oso solid...can train the student's IQ oso :thumbsup:
for secondary school students, huo feng liao yuan shld be nice and benefit them...can oso learn the great chinese literatre too :supz:

talking bout the project...of course cna share with u, i've reply r PM oledi...i agree....we must join force....then only can do something big :hello:

[Hades]

can intro conan or jing tian yi oso..thesd detective comics oso solid...can train the student's IQ oso :thumbsup:
for secondary school students, huo feng liao yuan shld be nice and benefit them...can oso learn the great chinese literatre too :supz:


Yeah, I agrees with Fire. Those detectives titles worth a try.

below is a list of the 15 titles we're introducing to schools, want do u think guys?
(5 stars, random order) 1.《灭火群雄》2.《中华小厨师》3.《彩虹的拉面》4.《新铁拳小子》5.《铁拳小子外传》6 .《台球 高手》7.《棋灵王》8.《灌篮高手》9.《足球小将翼》| (4 stars) 10.《网球王子》11.《怪医秦博士》12.《射雕英雄传》13.《笑傲江湖》| (3 stars) 14.《天龙八部》15.《孙中山》

I'll list out some more education titles for u. They r 孙子攻略, 三国志.. :thumbsup: Strategy of war

[rookiyong]

I think those titles are alright, give them something mild 1st, fighting comics is only for people like us who are posioned.

Best is to introduce them those with:
Values: SG kids are lacking on this
Good language: some comics really don't emphasize on text
Artwork: So that it can draw them to be interested
Healthy: Sports are definately good

I cant think of much already. :salute:

[garyg]

柯南and金田一may be suitable for sec students :) i'll put that down in 2nd batch, hope there is one. But then, detective stories have graphic depiction of murder, ie all sorts of methods of dying, so teachers might be afraid to recommend. But i think 2nd batch shld be alright.

i've seen 孙子攻略, looks very wordy to me, and heavy too, and HK comics always quite violent in their depiction, this one got heads chop off etc...initially i put it in, but took it out :) i think got to wait for teachers slowly accept 1st batch first. 三国志 is good, anything abt 3kingdoms is more or less safe, but chuangyi dont have i think, shld kind of recommend titles they have :) 火凤燎原 chuangyi have or not huh?

u're are free to recommend any titles anytime u come across k? i'm also trying very hard to find one-off title, bcos easier to market to schs, only found 铁拳小子外传 and 孙中山vol1 good.

[Fire]

柯南and金田一may be suitable for sec students :) i'll put that down in 2nd batch, hope there is one. But then, detective stories have graphic depiction of murder, ie all sorts of methods of dying, so teachers might be afraid to recommend. But i think 2nd batch shld be alright.

i've seen 孙子攻略, looks very wordy to me, and heavy too, and HK comics always quite violent in their depiction, this one got heads chop off etc...initially i put it in, but took it out :) i think got to wait for teachers slowly accept 1st batch first. 三国志 is good, anything abt 3kingdoms is more or less safe, but chuangyi dont have i think, shld kind of recommend titles they have :) 火凤燎原 chuangyi have or not huh?

u're are free to recommend any titles anytime u come across k? i'm also trying very hard to find one-off title, bcos easier to market to schs, only found 铁拳小子外传 and 孙中山vol1 good.


of course chuany yi got huo feng loh.....this best seller title cannot miss one...rite guys! :supz: :supz:

[Hades]

三国志 got chuang yi ver but already stopped producing liao...

I'll loves to read Doraemon since I was a kid, introducing this title lah. No harm and no any violence. A relaxing comics

[rookiyong]

HK comics really too off, they will kick the team out before anything is done.

孙子攻略 is good, but you are right, they may not take it as students cant understand too much about what it is trying to say. I think chuangyi re-issue 三国志 before, and since its a good title, guess it will be acceptable.

gary, you doing this on a school by school basis or an invitation of all schools to a place you organise? got chance that we can go also?

[garyg]

hades: i agree doraemon very good, but chuangyi only have scattered copies...sometime they all hor...a bit here and there not complete one :D :D

i defintely ask them abt 三国志 too :) thanks for the recommendations, u all old birds siah.

this event is coorganised by 7 organisations, and inviting teachers to come and listen lor :D thereafter we'll go sch by sch, but previously got go sch by sch b4, this is first time doing on this big scale :) gan jiong leh :P . yes i thought of inviting u all too, but i can only confirm after 13th aug when registration closes, as i scare there isnt enough seats for u all. priority goes to teachers, hope guys understand, got to 交待 to other organisers too :D i'll keep u all informed after 13th k?

[meow]

wah...big scale.... Good Job Garyg :thumbsup:
hopefully got seat for us :laugh:

[Fire]

no prob lah bro....i think all of us are willing to help :supz:

[garyg]

sorry for my MIA :P been busy doing preparations for the event with a couple of seminars going on too. Wonder if anyone would be interested to help out in the event as volunteer :) duties include crowd control, moving tables etc
As the capacity of the auditorium is only 250, and we have 230 teachers + 20 VIPs, so we may not have enough seats to go around. If u are keen, pls email to garyg@garygcomicstudio. thanks :D

[rookiyong]

I will be interested :salute:

Will confirm again with you whether I can make it, bcos alt sat working and on 27 I am on duty. See if I can change :salute:

[Fire]

on! count me in :thumbsup:

[rookiyong]

Just to let those interested also:

Date: 27/08/05
Time: 9 - 11am
Venue: Creative Technology

Only volunteers needed right gary?

[garyg]

thanks for offering guys :D pardon for not revealing too much on the net for any akaw ameow to see :D Email me and i will forward u the details once i sort things out, pls do mention ur nick too :D On that day will probably be a bit messy, bear with me k? :D

[joequakze]

....hello grayg.....wing fee here.... :) juz drop in to say hello.... :supz: .... hehhehe... me still getting to know this forum thus ...a bit overwhelmed by the support of local comic here...and dun know wat to say at the moment....kekkekke... :laugh:

:rock: :drum: :sing: :director:

[Fire]

hi wingfee! glad to see you here! welcome oh...its me, lezhun.

[garyg]

hi wingfee! :D and hi lezhun (fire), didnt knew u were lezhun :)

can anyone tell me how to post photos up? dont know what to click to post the photos to share with all :P

must jia you to promote local comics! jia you jia you!

[joequakze]

hiya ....lezhun.... :supz: ....hahahha.... Thanks for the welcome... :D

....hiya gray.... its really great to know another forum where we find ppl who's really into the promoting of our local comics... :D

.... i think since 2 years plus ago... local comic scene has been very active... group of artists came together to form a 'society', studios, comic workshop etc to try to venture and hope to make something out of it in our local comic industry... its a very aspiring sign...

....we have artists who try to venture out on their own...though we have a quite a few 'failure' cases already... but still its a good sign to have artists who actually give the effort and try... cos be4 2 years plus ago...things are like dead dormant in our local comic scene....

.... gray should know me...i m a man who talk abt business.... :D ...i focus more on the commercial aspect of comic production... i think to make our local comic scene flourish... the focus must be on the commercial aspect of comic production ie. how to produce a work that sells....and not startin off with wat u wanna draw or produce.... :salute:

.... Remember, only if your work sells...then u'll get the chance to win the support of our local comic fans...and when u have a fan base...then u will be able to make something out in your promotion of local comic work whether its in CL or English as a whole.... Ultimately....your work must SELLS... :red:

.... and when it comes to 'selling' your work...we are talking abt business...thus...the commercial aspect.... :)

....so...let us all jia you bah.... :D

:rock: :supz: :sing: :drum:

[Fire]

hi wingfee! :D and hi lezhun (fire), didnt knew u were lezhun :)

can anyone tell me how to post photos up? dont know what to click to post the photos to share with all :P

must jia you to promote local comics! jia you jia you!

hi garry!

to post photo, first u must upload the photo to a web based photoalbum such as www.photobucket.com.... then copy the ..... tag provided and paste on the msg . another way is to upload to your website ..... copy the weblink ...click on the insert image icon above ..paste the link into the text box...and there u go! your photo is up :thumbsup:

just like this
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/alvinlokkun/oldmancoloursmall.jpg

[rookiyong]

Can use these steps also :)

http://forums.hobbyhype.com/showthread.php?t=237

[garyg]

ok, here goes...

http://www.garygcomicstudio.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_DSC05335.jpg
http://www.garygcomicstudio.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_DSC05358.jpg
http://www.garygcomicstudio.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_DSC05372.jpg
http://www.garygcomicstudio.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_DSC05381.jpg
http://www.garygcomicstudio.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_DSC05407.jpg

[garyg]

yeah! it worked :D :D :D thanks for the advice

why everyone call me different names? wingfee call me "gray" and fire "garry" -_-" , anyway whatever.

wingfee, think u may like it here too bcos these people are older people like u and me :P people, meet wingfee, who might be long-winded at times (hee hee), but definitely a good guy with insight too :) he's an old bird artist with asiapac :)

yup, agreed commercial aspect is very impt :)

must jia you jia you!

[Terry Hooper]

Just a quick few words. What Garyg is doing by introducing comics into schools is VITAL to keep the future industry alive. In the UK those under 35 years of age have no idea of British comics in the past as the old comics for pre-school to 14 years old kids stopped. The industry is now virtually dead. The US is also finding its readers to be 35+.
Encouraging kids to read comics from an early age gives you a future comic fan/buyer base -it also helps kids or even illiterate adults to learn to read.
Well done Garyg!

[LoneWolf]

hiya ....lezhun.... :supz: ....hahahha.... Thanks for the welcome... :D

....hiya gray.... its really great to know another forum where we find ppl who's really into the promoting of our local comics... :D

.... i think since 2 years plus ago... local comic scene has been very active... group of artists came together to form a 'society', studios, comic workshop etc to try to venture and hope to make something out of it in our local comic industry... its a very aspiring sign...

....we have artists who try to venture out on their own...though we have a quite a few 'failure' cases already... but still its a good sign to have artists who actually give the effort and try... cos be4 2 years plus ago...things are like dead dormant in our local comic scene....

.... gray should know me...i m a man who talk abt business.... :D ...i focus more on the commercial aspect of comic production... i think to make our local comic scene flourish... the focus must be on the commercial aspect of comic production ie. how to produce a work that sells....and not startin off with wat u wanna draw or produce.... :salute:

.... Remember, only if your work sells...then u'll get the chance to win the support of our local comic fans...and when u have a fan base...then u will be able to make something out in your promotion of local comic work whether its in CL or English as a whole.... Ultimately....your work must SELLS... :red:

.... and when it comes to 'selling' your work...we are talking abt business...thus...the commercial aspect.... :)

....so...let us all jia you bah.... :D

:rock: :supz: :sing: :drum:
Totally agreed, 1st of all, thats how s'pore is built over the pass 40years. Our local arts scene standard is still far away from countries with deep culture. Comics is an art but we must commercialise it 1st before we can even talk about what we wish to draw :| keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hades]

Encouraging kids to read comics from an early age gives you a future comic fan/buyer base -it also helps kids or even illiterate adults to learn to read.
Well done Garyg!

I agrees :thumbsup:

[SKYW4LKER]

I disagree to certain point in a kids growing up to being a teenager then to adults like us. Kids (depending on age say below 10) should be reading comics of non-violence and definitely not LHM, etc. When they reach teens then they should go for more expressive romance, and those understanding of trust, disciplinery, and fact of life kind of comics...of coz we can put some good violence in them to help them understand the need to protect themselves and their interest when they face one in their teens life. At later stage when they are adults...then I can say we begin the read and collect what we have miss out in the real world of true comics of all kinds...since we as adults knows how to control and make decisions of what is the right thing to do. Anyway I started reading Lao fu Zhi when i was a boi...then move up to Marvels heros (spidy) in teens....on now at 39 then I read LFM even when I already know is bad for me to read when I was 12 yrs old....well i did take a peep once. :)

[joequakze]

...i think abt encouraging kids to pick up comic reading....mmm...actually we should put it in another way.... 'encouraging parents to let their kids pick up comic reading...'...

...kids or teenage regardless of age are exposed to comics any where... nowadays popular comic series can be found in library...i came across a boy may be around 11yrs old or primary 5-6 level...paid $2 and sit inside a comic shop reading comic of violence genre....

...thus comic reading is becoming a hobby for alot of kids nowadays and they dun have to actually buy it to read.... :red:

...i think wat grayg doin is to encourage the parents and schools to let the kids to pick up comic reading... they are the ppl who disclipine the kids, controlling the buying power... and authorise wat the kid should read or shouldn't read....

...thus if the parents and school authority can loosen their grip a bit and let comic reading grows... we'll have a another big group of target comsumers for our comic market and thats is certainly good news for local comic scene... :)

...Gambette desu grayg san... :supz:

:rock: :drum: :sing: :supz: :laugh:

[SKYW4LKER]

yes that I agree...but firstly I guess if the parents totally do not appreciate comics then I think this kid/teens will only find their own way from frens influence and that can be bad at the wrong end esp for comics that is too violence. So Gary's community/schools/institution could be the only good problem that quide kids to appreciate comics in the right mandate with careful selections according to age group. :salute:

[rookiyong]

I think Sky's method may work for our generation, but for the current batch, they basically can get whatever they want and even parents lose control over them, much less on what they read.

Gary's approach may be two-fold. One is that it will get more and more people to read comics, thus building up the industry. Once you get people to change their misconception over "comics are for bad kids", than you are one step up. Another reason, Gary is a Chinese teacher before, so he will know all the problems faced on getting them to be interested in Chinese. By using Chinese Comics as a springboard, it may inject some blood and generate interest in Chinese & Reading, which may cultivate a good habit. I accept this option rather than "you have to learn Chinese so that next time can work in China". :bang: anyway just my thoughts of the events...

In fact I tried this before, talked to my colleague whose son is not interested in Chinese, but probably they don't think it will help :) I believe we all go through the process of flipping dictionary for words when 1st starting to read comic right? actually quite fun what :laugh: :laugh: maybe now they lose that kind of touch already, have computer and PDA's.

When someone in this forum mentioned about borrowing Western comics from the Library, I was so surprised that I went to verify. Even our government is not against it, so it now goes to how parents think. I always tell people, its better to have your kid at home, reading comics, playing computer games, even watch TV.....better than going out to mix with who you also don't know right?

Terry, does UK also have a history on comics? Any samples to see?

Joe, you from asiapac ah? Actually I got a favour to ask, dropped than a email but no replies....we are thinking of introducing educational comics here, but needs permission..can help? :D if ok, I can PM you some details.

[joequakze]

...rookie...me not from asiapac lah...but has been working with them for the past few years doin illustrations and comic script for bks of info-ed genre... :)

....asiapac is one of the biggest in doin info-ed genre bks...i haven't received the email lah....mmmm...can send the details to me again..? :red:

...my email is wing_fee@yahoo.com.... i get the details and talk to our publishing director lydia and see wat she thinks.... she's the 2nd person in asiapac incharge of publications, she can help to deliver the message to our boss li kok if she think there's potential or that they can help.... :)

....send me the details lah... :supz:

:rock: :drum: :sing: :supz: :dance:

[rookiyong]

Thank you thank you. Nothing much, just some simple request...I will forward you the mail :salute:

[joequakze]

yeap...received liao... :D ...i'll be the messenger bah... will take couple of days... wait for my pm.... :supz:

:drum: :sing: :rock: :dance:

[Fire]

thanks wingfee for helping us to pass the msg to asiapac....

btw, lets hope that our local comic industry will grow with those active group of artists...hopefully this time round can see more local comics published in the market than die half way in the production..... :)

[joequakze]

...have forward the email to asiapac liao....the publishing director Lydia...said its a good idea and gesture from Hobbyhype...she's ok abt it.... :)

...still....may be rooki can wait for her reply and see how things actually go lah... :D ....

....if she didn't reply in the next few days let me know.... tomorrow actually i m going back to the firm to settle some drawings....will talk to her abt this again... :red:

.... :rock: :drum: :sing: :dance: :supz:

[garyg]

thank you all for the encouragements for the seminar, really appreciate it :) special thanks to alvin who helped a lot on the day (BTW congrats on your ROM).

thanks terry, i'm just doing what i can and like to do. i think comics can help local students learn CL and CL can promote comics :) its a bit sad when we see local comic grps are not cooperating despite the "poor" state sg comic is in, so we try to pull resources and network to build things up :) we should look at big pic and put aside our petty prejudices i think. only when there's an industry, then can everybody win :) (oops, going into my teacher-nagging mode :P)

agree with joe abt 'encouraging parents to let their kids pick up comic reading...' many times it's the adults we have to convinice to let them not only to allow kids to read comics, but actually ENCOURAGE kids to do so. there's still a lot of work to do.

rookiyong i stand with u against "you have to learn Chinese so that next time can work in China". it is one of the many reasons to learn CL but overly emphasised. I'm esply against the term "CL elite" etc. like u said, reading comics cultivate a habit of reading which opens the way for constant contact with CL, otherwise nowsaday what else is our kids reading?

[rookiyong]

Wing Fee: Thanks alot, got the very positive reply today :prayer: we will set up the new forum on educational comics by this week. :hello:

Gary: Only a few photos at your site about the event. No photographer helping that day ah? :) Any post event info to share? :D

[joequakze]

...u are very welcome rookie... :supz:

:sing: :drum: :rock: :dance: :supz:

[Fire]

Wing Fee: Thanks alot, got the very positive reply today :prayer: we will set up the new forum on educational comics by this week. :hello:

Gary: Only a few photos at your site about the event. No photographer helping that day ah? :) Any post event info to share? :D

maybe can visit chuangyi website...they send their photographer there